nightmare. >> greta: are you anti-establishment? >> yes, yes, yes. >> greta: tom delay i. this is a pretty sick establishment. it could use some changing. >> greta: okay. tom delay, the whip when you were speaker of the house. he came out against you. >> he tried to engineer a coup against me, he engagedin behavior that ultimately led him into court. we are very different people. i don't agree with his style, his approach or his tactics. the average american understood delay and romney fully, i would win in a landslide. >> greta: it seeps a recent effort that people have come out against you. it's like they came out on the phone and said, let's do it today. does it seem that way to you? >> romney has an enormous amount of money. he is able to organize a lot of things. he has hired lots of lobbyists, which is the great irony. attacking me -- falsely, about freddie mac, he is surround bide