confused message. that's why the consultants say it's time for the ceo to step up and take the hit. they told me this morning the whole thing is a shipwreck. he said what clever marketing mind came up with a stupid idea of this 30% discount. how horrific is that. no wonder, jon the company is backing away from that news they had made that offer. carnival has to get more involved, their brand is taking a big hit. jon: and the ship is still sitting there, and there are a lot of people yet to find that they don't know, you know, what happened to them. >> that's right. that big ship there, that is an ugly image, wish you could drape a whole sheet over it. jon: dennis kneale, fox business network, thank you. jenna: oakland, california, right across the bay from my ohm town san francisco ranks after london and before tokyo on a now lee released list. that list may surprise you. we'll tell you more about it coming up.