raising the debt ceiling and more spending. i don't buy this bill, i don't like this at all. bill: you don't buy what? >> it's a dog and pony show. it's republicans standing up voicing outrage over something they should have fought back in august. house republicans dropped the ball on that super committee deal. they had an opportunity to really put democrats in a corner and push for big cuts and they didn't do it. now you have the president is going to put a budget forward, finally, in the next couple of weeks, bill, i think now republicans have to put forth and alternative and they've got to argue for more cuts even though they are unlikely to get them. this symbolic stuff, it's sickening. they've got to stop that. bill: are you take that republicans have lost this debate already? or are you suggesting a strategy where they can regain their footing. >> i don't see how they can regain their footing, they have to put out their claim that they are for lower spending.