elected, reelected, and it's the same thing. down size to get better performance, leslie. >> i don't agree with the way it's done. first of all the jobs of the president would be lost overtime with attrition. secondly, the president. >> bill: no, it's lost jobs. no, that's bogus. come on, leslie. >> that's bogus? >> bill: take a job off the table, it doesn't exist anymore. so people can't work in that job. it doesn't matter whether it's by attrition or whether you come in with a chainsaw. the job disappears that's what romney did at bap. he made jobs disappear so companies could run more profitably. that's what romney is doing making jobs at the federal government disappear so the government can run more profitably because we owe 15 trillion. it's the same thing, leslie. >> i don't agree. >> bill: you don't agree? >> there is a huge difference if you are saying as the example the president gave a year ago i made a promise to do. this he has to do this. yes it's an election year. when you are saying we don't need two different agencies