because he wants a flat tax, some people say it would ep had rich people more. >> no, but more importantly, john, reduces the price of risk taking, reduces the price of success and productive work and that way, you create more jobs, and it enables people with little to get ahead. when you have a stagnant economy, that's what holds people back and people have little and can't get ahead. >> let's add the part when you're talking about freedom. right now the average american spends more than a day, 26 1/2 hours filling out tax forms during the year, freedom-- >> and you've got last year, we spent six and a half billion hours felling out tax forms, equivalent of 3 million full-time jobs just on a stupid code not even the irs knows what is it. you don't have to go to the amazon to find exotic creatures, they're crawling around here today.