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type of plug in cars when the hybrid market is doing quite well. the market and the free market would have spoken and it hasn't. >> it has not spoken. again to your point. if gm wants to do with their own money, but we're so deep into gm and this is coming from the white house, period. no cost consulting with general motors management. this is strictly the white house's idea utopia. >> the task force said that the volt wasn't financially viable. >> that would be plug prince and-- but, all right. go ahead, adam, defend this, go ahead. [laughter] >> two things, one, the volt was on the drawing boards for years, nothing to do with the obama administration. >> it should have stayed on the drawing board. >> and furthermore, i covered the technology industry where companies release whacky products all the time, that are different from the competition, and some succeed,

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