come up with study after study showing that unionization is bad for the economy. i'm willing to go along with your point. look, i always look what the facts are. you show me the study or professor or whatever, the economy that's done better with unionization as opposed to nonunionization and until i see that, i don't believe it. >> our economy, unionization saved our economy in the 1930's and the 1930's is not the year that-- >> and do you think that our economy is stronger now than it was in the 30's? i still think it's stronger than now it was in the 30's. >> brenda: hold on now, wait. >> it's not stronger than it was in the 50's, when he had the-- >> you don't think our economy is stronger now than it was in the 50's. >> brenda: wait, let me just aed to jonas' point, please. >> just for the record. the industrial revolution wasn't in the depression. >> brenda: we have to wait for that note. >> benny goodman is on the other line. >> brenda: all right. you want to know why voters number one worry is still the