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490,000. your thoughts of that, about that? >> jon, that is one of the things that concerns me most. every new secretary of defense, be they republican or democrat i think historically always mean well and talk to these think tank experts who never served a day in the military who tell them we can win a war basically with air power and special forces that we don't need that grunt on the ground but history tells us every time we need the grunt on the ground to win the war, to finish the job. that's what we saw in iraq. that's why the surge worked. because we got that grunt on the ground to finish the job. so that, the cut in the army, taking the army below 500,000 concerns me most. other thing that really concerns me, they talked today about the $489 billion in defense cuts over 10 years. this is what president obama had talked about for some time. they didn't talk about the $500 billion with the sequester that will be

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