with rick perry and stumbled in the interview with bret baier and came across defensive. it depends how mitt romney performance. his speech last night wasn't great. santorum's was more genuine and he has to come across as the genuine candidate. they're asking what makes mitt romney tick. the base is under decided. will they get behind rick santorum in south carolina? there's a chance. >> neil: we shall see. bachmann is out and perry is in. the man who put them in this political pickle is up. in iowa he's all but a king, or a king maker. bob vander plats, head of the social conservative organization, the family leader. i was so thinking that he was a researched last night on "fox business," i called him a