pennsylvania. that was more of a barack obama, you know, phenomenon. but, look, santorum has really retailed it in iowa. he has been to all 99 counties. >> yeah. >> bill: i think iowains respect his work ethic. they respect the fact that he has been out there and he is be a honest guy. he doesn't have a lot of stuff in his background questionable. everybody knows in iowa is substantial. they seem to be supporting mr. santorum even though he is a catholic. once he gets out of iowa and has to go to new hampshire and then south korea and florida, you don't believe he has the infrastructure, the money raising capability to compete. is that what you are saying tonight? >> what i would say about it is that this has been tried before. candidates who have come out of nowhere in the past. >> bill: huckabee last time around. >> huckabee. and it always comes out looking like he ran for president of iowa or president of new hampshire if that's