win and president obama won them back in 2008 and although we are just talking about the primary and gingrich and rick perry's exclusion could have an impact on the election. if they become the nominee. >>dave: karl rove has said many times gip rich does not have the structure in place. some said he was running to sell books and dvd's and promote. and now he is the frontrunner. does he have the organizational skills? rick: and not prepared to go that deep. that is a criticism out there, not something i am saying is true but it is out there. >>juliet: will donald trump join? he broke from the republican party and registered as an minute and everyone says that is setting the stage for a 1212 we run. not necessarily. rick: he has been all three. he was a democrat.