war, afghanistan war, they feel that he sometimes, you know, seems sympathetic to iran. and so he just isn't, you know, towing the line, i think, on foreign policy. so they have major issues with that substantively. and then there's a lot of stuff that's going to start coming out. i know there have been some other articles written about some racist comments that i guess showed up in some newsletters that he had his name on, not necessarily made by him. and so i think they feel like he just cannot represent the conservative brand, um, appropriately. jon: if he wins iowa, a guy named phillip klein writes in the examiner, judy, his outrageous statements and ugly associations will be granted a lot more attention. is that an accurate statement? >> well, not if keys have anything -- conservatives have anything to say about it but, sure, that's the role of iowa. even though people who win iowa don't necessarily go on to get the nomination, they do get a lot of attention, and it usually builds momentum for candidates.