>> bill: get something back. >> that would have left china out there as the last man standing. my guess is we could have pushed china hard enough. >> bill: that was then and this is now. they are chugging along to get these nukes and new president does what. >> make sure we have military options that combine with crippling sanctions. we have developed in a way iran understands we would use military options. >> are you a tough guy going to stare them down and say i'm going to use them? if you bomb iran that starts world war three. they will try block hormuz, oil will double. unintended consequences against the united states all over the muslim world would be horrible. that's what iran is banking on. then there is the other side of the sorry which is not taking actions with tripling sanctions and treating them as they are and military sanctions if you don't do those things that iran has a nuclear weapon that nuclear material will ultimately be used. >> shepard: no doubt about it. you are telling me today you