she says i don't want to do that. it's not relevant because she is not going win anyway. i thought was very disloyal especially in her case because she came up four times. she called. she talked and then i get this long lengthy call with thousands of people and she says she is not going to do the debate. >> did anybody call you and say donald, i'm not going to do this? >> yes. >> greta: who? >> governor romney called me and said very nicely he weochbtd be able to do it. his schedule doesn't permit which is farfetched, i think. if i think he is the best job, i would endorse him in a minute. it's not because he won't do the debate. i guess you have to get over that psychologically, but the fact if i think he is the best that will do the best job for the country, i wouldn't hesitate