foundation and ai got to ask questions. there wasn't press outrage about that, no one was saying-- well, actually there was outrage, no one was saying they were bozos, and saying that about donald trump because as a political figure he's clownish. >> and michele bachmann has been there four times and there is a lot of hipocracy i think that people are reading into this, likely so. >> jon: just to defend trump a little bit. >> and it's a popular culture country. you know? i mean, ryan seacrest, maybe get the today show gig. people want to be entertaining and maybe more people will vote. >> jon: what about newt gingrich and the media take on him? he is leading in the polls, but the media coverage seems to be very skeptical. >> the media coverage and the money, those are the two real obstacles he has. and because everybody knows and that he has a tende