think folks will say there you go again? >> what's that? bill: trying to do an end round not just on republicans but democrats also saying that you weren't really serious in the beginning on this? >> well i agree with them on that as well. i don't like don't think they were ever serious getting something out of the committee. i voted against the committee because i thought it was over a messy way to come up with a budget. we don't have a budget for over 900 days. we have to do it the regular way. this is end run. the burten is not on congress but american public to it pressure on congress to cut spending. bill: even if you did a deal the president said he would veto isn't. >> he has said that so many times in the past. i won't go this far. i won't go this far. once the senate and house came together on certain things the president was able to --. bill: it is election year. all this is viewed in the prism of politics. what is your sense where the pleern american people are right now as we go into 2012? >> i think the american people are upset with congress.