he said we will let you go back and forth every two weeks. that wasn't going to be workable. but my father died and i always said i know john wesley rice jr., and something inside of me says that he decided it was time to mov on, and i hop he didn't do it so i could go on to washington. >> wow. that's a pretty, you know, revealing story and obviously a great man. you know, you worked for george w. bush for eight years. i have had the honor of being around him a number of times, including just before he left the white house. i had one of his last interviews. when his book came out we did an interview on this stage and i went to the texas rain. and got to interview him. i found him in real life, i wish that the person that i met, you know, i don't think tv was his favorite medium. >> no, no. >> you agree? >> i agree completely. >> you talk about him in terms of like even on 9/11, decide i have, alert, engaged, and