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>> that's the moment i would like to start with you on. he used the word humane, in terms of the way we should allow people to stay in this country if they have been the example he gave, if you have been here 25 years, if you belong to a church, how are we, the party of family values, in his words, going to separate these people from this country in and it harkened back to rick perry in a fox debate early on, where he said people who would push them away, send them away, had no heart. you got a lot of heat for that. >> he did. of course, newt gingrich did not say anything like that. about the immigration hawks tonight. he talked about being humane to what would presumably be a small subset of people who came here illegally who have been here quite a long time, with ties to communities, contributing members of society and belong to churches and who have families. that was, it seems to me, that might limit any damage that

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