decision-making on the loan portfolio at the department of energy. he was working on the so-called announcement value in solyndra for the white house, object sentence plea for the president and vice president if they wanted to make speeches based on solyndra. there was another element here that came out of the house panel report, jenna, and that is, is that the stimulus program that was enacted in february 2009 basically wiped out an extra cost that company that got loan guarantees would have to pay back to the agencies. they are called credit subsidies to get the loan guarantee. jenna: let me take this step-by-step. let's go back to the le back to the liaison. is it unusual to have the liaison from any administration with a department like the department of energy. >> reporter: personally in my reporting i can't say, because i have not seen it before personally. we've seen this as an issue though in the house panel report in the back end of the report.