or anything bold. that is that you just get rid of everybody. and you don't -- it doesn't matter about what is true and not true or anything like that. what you do is just cut everything, and that's what i mean when i said the board didn't show leadership or guts. they just did 101 and i'm disturbed about that. i also want to say, i talk about the rioting at penn state. i heard there was only a couple dozen out of over 2,000. >> chris: all right. we're going to have to leave it there. thank you both so much. thanks for joining us today. obviously we're going to follow the events there at penn state. next, the congressional super committee remains deadlocked over cutting the debt and time is running out. an inside look at the negotiations from two key members when we come right back.