what something cost and what the risks of the test were, they wanted to know where they could buy it cheaper. they reconnected the purchase with the payment. so haygot great value. i gave them great value because i was happy to get paid and not have to go through the insurance company or medicare and file all the paperwork and everything else. so what we have done, we have -- we have two different philosophies. one is that the government's smart enough to run health care. we have proven that isn't right. and the obamacare expansion will destroy health care. i am not sure that's what wee they intended so they can run it all. number 2, we know that the quality of care's going to decline in the future unless we really put patients and physicians back together making the decisions. >> we are talking patient-centered care, that's what we want, care that's best for the patients, so the patients get the care they need from the doctor they want at a price they can afford. but this law is bad for patients, it's bad for providers -- nurses and doctors