that's terrific. i have yet to hear a single reporter ask a single occupy wall street person a single rational question about the economy that would lead them to say, for example, who is going to pay for the park you're occupying if there are no businesses making a profit? >> great answer. >> good question. i don't think i heard a reporter ask that down at zuccotti park on wall street but it's a very interesting question. we'll tell you more about those occupy wall street protesters as well coming up. where do you think they're putting the dough they're raising? it's not a trick question, you probably know. >> even though it was on one of those nbc cable properties, if you watched the debated last night, who was the winner? who was the loser? e-mail us and we'll try to include some of your comments. also, do you have a question for rick perry. he'll be on with us. >> this is a huge story, gretchen. >> huge. it happens as the debate is going on. riot police called to the penn state campus overnight following the ouster of head football coach joe paterno.