lead reforms now. they said you don't know my people. it's me or the muslim brotherhood and then he engaged in policies to make that sure, that the muslim brotherhood would be strong. >> you saw this coming? >> we saw it coming. and moreover, it was linked to 9/11 in the following way. the freedom gap produced the hopelessness and the hay tread and the extremists on top that ultimately ended up in the al-qaedas of the world. so reinstituting an american policy in the middle east or instituting an american policy in the middle east, we followed everywhere else. freedom and instability ultimately are friends of one another is posh. >> i were described in the book the bush doctrine and urn asked an important question by the president, should we go after state-sponsored terrorism. and we have approximatecy wars funded fund iran and they would fund