ron paul now running in fifth place. it gives you an idea how dr dramatically things can change in two months. how will the field look come january. hear what the senior advisor to george w. bush says. he's a well known fox contributor, best known for his white board, the one and only karl rove. sir, how are you? >> fabulous. how are you, sean? >> you want to add more texture. i understand you have a perspective going back to 2008 that's pretty interesting. what have you got? >> first of all, let's use one set of numbers which is the real clear politics average of all the recent polls. you're right. herman cain has come from nowhere to lead in that by 25. mitt romney at 24. rick perry at 11, and newt gingrich at 9. now, the real clear politics average is a good way to get sort of the outlieliers by averaging recent polls but it's a lagging indicator. herman cain sort of peaked two