parenthood had wound up -- it wound up understating the number of cases it had done to try to protect itself to try to down play. he kept those records. he moves on. he is no longer the d.a. the d.a. that's now in place is pursuing the case against planned parenthood trying to claim that they have falsified their numbers. that they haven't been straight with authorities. okay. planned parenthood says produce the records. prove it. what records do you have? so this current d.a. goes back to the department of health and says, okay, let's see the records. they say we shredded the records years ago. six years ago we shredded them so you d.a. can't prove your case against planned parenthood the d.a. say what the -- i can't prove my case my own department of department of shredded the records how could this happen? >> bill: should they have shredded? >> they did it when kathleen sebelius was governor very pro-choice and new that bill kline were sniffing around. hasn't been proven but the allegation is that when she was governor she stepped in to cover up the documents that's the