facilities and stuff to their houses. >> bill: independence, juan are going to decide the next election. you would agree with that right? independent americans? >> yes. >> mobilize base all day long and it doesn't matter. >> why do you say that? if they turn out people, bill. where do you think that billion dollars for obama is coming from? >> bill: look, he doesn't have -- before these people existed he was raising gazillions of dollars. >> is he going to continue. >> bill: good for him. i'm an independent, all right? i looked at this group in the beginning and gave them a shot and. ed to know what they were all about. once they started to attack our personnel here, including john stossel and geraldo and all of that, i said, you know what? i don't want any part of these people. i guarantee you 90%. 90% of independent americans, juan are saying the same thing, we don't like him. we don't trust him. we think they're radicals and if anybody throws in with them we are going to vote against that anybody. that's what's going on, juan. >> no. but you -- remember, about 60%