is what is leading to the stumbles and miss steps and mistakes. the abortion blunder was kind of inexplicab inexplicable. trying to -- it doesn't walk it back when you say it ought to be the person's choice but oh yeah it is also illegal. i suspect herman cain may have peaked and may begin to decline. on one other point there's a lot of people who think this debate with romney and perry, perry took more. he took a cheap shot on romney. >> what he said was romney hired an illegal. he thought it was a company he hired. which unknown to him hired illegals. he told him to stop it they said they would when they didn't do that and more legals got hired he fired the company. that is something no smart