been governors, both would be better than president obama. i'll support whoever is our nominee. the reason i'm supporting rick is you look at thinks track record in texas. they created half the jobs created in america the last couple of years. president obama, we lost 2 million jobs. governor perry, he created 2 million jobs. he enacted tough tort reform. he understands what it's going to take to get this country back on track. now he's going to propose this flat tax proposal. seriously cutting taxes, revamping the tax code. here is the fundamental difference between governor perry and president obama. president obama never had run anything other than his campaign before he was elected president. we don't just need another good debater. we need somebody as a governor, as a business executive balanced the budget, made tough decisions. >> brian: i don't have to tell you, the polls aren't looking good, unlike about a month ago. look at this, mitt romney out in front, according to the last ap poll. herman cain second. overall in popularity. rick perry down to 13, although he's got $17 million.