>> bill: how do you do that? >> sometimes have you got to take it. >> bill: wrap it around his throat? what's the gumption? >> you have got to take it and show some strength. you say, you know what? finish your point and then i will finish mine. >> bill: that's what he is trying to do. >> don't stand there and beg anderson cooper to help you. i thought it was good. i enjoyed the debate. >> bill: i'm sure that's why cooper let it go because it was good tv. i have to disagree with you. i think romney did it the right way there. if it were me, i would have said listen, anderson, are you going to stop this guy or do i have to? that would have rattled putin. that's what i would have done. >> if i was perry, i would have said to mitt romney you know anderson cooper is not going to be there to help you in the oval office when the going gets tough. >> bill: herman cain obviously we all knew that they were going to go after him because is he on fire. >> sure. >> bill: what do you think happened to mr. cain last night? >> i think it's amazing that you have seen him rise in the polls. he has a tax plan that would taxes on 84% of the american