they wanted, it was unsustainable and they collapsed. he is looking at the wrong problem. it's wrong to equate military spending with defense. i don't want to cut defense, i want abettor defense, a stronger defense but i want to defend this country. i don't want to defend the borders between afghanistan and pakistan. i want to tkefrpbdz the borders between mexico and out nighted states. there is a big different in defending this country in spending endlessly. it shows a lack of understanding of economics if they think that they can spend money aimlessl aimlessly, and the budget doesn't matter. we are in the midst of a world-wide sovereign debt crisis and we better realize how serious it is. martha: let's talk about, rather than going after the entitlements you are putting your focus more on government bureaucracy, eliminating departments and government spending. how do the numbers add up in terms of getting rid of the tkeupts, you'd lose a lot of