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i understand you get more publicity, i understand that, but i think when you start hurting local businesses, and that happened -- let me give you an example. in dc, there was a taste of d.c i met the guy who organized it. he's not a political figure. he said, i think i've lost about $250,000. this was on friday night, because of the level of security they had to bring in, tourists didn't want to come downtown. he's a little guy and he's been hurt a lot by this. one of you can chime in. amelia maybe. >> the businesses are going to be hurt by this and it has a bigger effect. meaning this is causing the uncertainty for the small business owner, meaning that with these type of things, why should we put out the risk? why should we dive deeper and continue our hard work when this is what people are saying? they don't even understand that a lot of what is happening is directly from washington. it's not wall street. it's washington. these are the same people who are going to apply for jobs and don't realize that we're going to be able to google you to see this is where you were. >> this is the thing: a boat won't sink unless it's taken on the water.

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