be interesting to see what he says in the days ahead. my sense about these people and most americans look at them and say, there are people who said they quit their jobs to come and join this movement. well, i think a lot of americans would say, you did what? so, i'm not saying that is true of all of them. it is a very mixed bag of individuals there doing this. bill: but the larger point you're making is that independents, those in the middle, are not drawn or attracted to protests like these? >> right. bill: and the president should not attach himself to these protests. otherwise he will alienate people that determine elections and outcomes in 2012? >> exactly. bill: brit, what do you think about the comparisons made, you talked a lot about this yesterday morning, wall street protests with the tea party movement. are these comparisons in your view fair or do they miss the mark? >> well i think, i think they miss the mark. the parallels are these really. there is some objection here