fears, that has materialized. so you want to talk to these folks before a loan, the budget folks, like daniels and or zag saying it is a bad investment. >>alisyn: and omb said "the optics will not look good if they go bankrupt." and some of the competitors said this company is in bad shape and could go bankrupt and others knew. it was an open secret that solyndra was in trouble, yet, the white house, kept pushing to give them money and fast tracked the process according to the documents because they wanted it ready for the 2009 september press conference. they wented this to be their shining example of green technology that the president could trumpet so they are trying to get it ready for 2009. >>clayton: the wheels are coming off in early august with the e-mails pouring in and one of the white house energy