she has been sinking ever since. down to 3% in this poll. perry guy to watch. he cannot afford another debate performance like the one that, the way you were in charge. he performed poorly. romney doesn't have to do anything. he can stand back now. significantly for him he didn't gain from perry's drop or picked up one point. i think sometimes it's a two-step process. if a leader will lose ground and later get to somebody else on the bounce. that may happen to romney. >> bret: on governor perry's performance in the last debate, his wife came to his defense at an event in iowa, saying this. "he has never had a debate class or a debate coach in his life. he's going to be better prepared next time." >> well, that's -- i'm not sure that is really a good comment for her to make. it sounds like she is saying he was not prepared which is