news, show that the the federal government did in fact use taxpayers dollars to buy guns and knowingly sell the guns to mexican drug cartels and where are the guns now? we know some were used in the murders of u.s. border agents, brian perry and bottom line, leslie marshal, the atf botched the program, but new information suggested the white house now about the pralle all along. >> my first voyage on "the five." >> where is my wife flag? i've got to say, bad idea, botched and a dud and because i'm sitting in for bob, homage to him. >> no, you have to play. you can't back-- >> don't put your feet on the table. >> and you can't just blame the president, okay? you have to look at decisions that were made from the atf. you have to-- everybody wants to blame obama, i understand the layout here and that's how it works, when you're the white house and the president and doesn't matter if people made