concerning to me where it comes from as long as it is not newly borrowed money. >>neil: wait, wait, wait, but if it is newly burred you are saying no, even if it means we are looking at another potential shut down of the government. >>guest: the thing is, you have leverage in trying to reform government only when they pump up against deadlines and there is always a new deadline and in six months another new deadline. this is nothing new. the fact that the leadership waits until the very end for bring this up, makes it more of consequence, but i would say, yes, you need to pay for things if the disaster relief funding is more urgent than, maybe, building a bicycle trail, or building a wind mill or giving $500 million to solyndra, i think you make the priorities, and that is what we should do as the legislatessors, decide what is most imminence and most urgent. >>neil: i will get to those in a second but one more time, the possible shut down, how likely do you think it is?