billionaires, so i think we have to be careful when we kind of put labels on these things. we're not saying that there's anything wrong with people earning a lot and being very successful. what we're saying is it's not fair to say that those people should pay lower taxes than people earning much less. jenna: the president says millionaires and billionaires. he mentioned a hedge fund manager but that's the term that's been used. just a quick final question for you here and i'm going to have to run. one of our viewers is concerned about whether or not this plan will bring jobs back to america. is there anything that would incentivize businesses to bring business back to jobs they've shifted overseas? >> as details of the corporate tax reform are worked through, one of the main goals is to create an environment that is hospital -- hospitable to the growth in jobs, investment in jobs in the united states. i think that from the beginning of the p-rd with the american jobs act to tax reform to create an environment to stimulate investment, our goal is to create jobs in america. jenna: as a goal -- that's a