to turn things around. and what i want people to know is that the poured concreter to save our country is in their hands is and we need to get them back engaged with the process. and i want to be part of that and i'm going to follow where the grass roots go as far as the presidential race. >> mike: let's talk about the book because in it you said that there was something that happened in you, a personal change because of the crisis in the country. i want you talk about that. what that was moment, if it was a moment or if it was a process. tell me about what happened in jim demint's mind and heart that said this country is in a very different place? >> mike, when i first came to congress and i was elected in 1998, i was elected to the house. we had about $5 trillion in debt and i thought i was joining a republican team that was going to reform the tax code, fix social security, help people buy their own health insurance. and i'm afraid i ran into a republican party that was really focused more on getting