some of the spin back now. say well, yeah, they were worried about the politics but they were doing it anyway which means it wasn't politically motivated. it was done for the purpose of innovation. you look at the loan programs in the department of energy and you see, i looked at five of them totally $9 billion. the government says for that $9 billion, they will create 206 permanent jobs investing $9 billion. what senator murkowski calculated yesterday and we calculated was she said $5 million a job. i calculated about $4.7 million a job so we're about $300,000 off. so what they've done is create jobs at the rate of $4.7 million per job. >> yes. but even if that sounds outrageous, the problem is those jobs don't exist anymore because companies like solyndra have gone under so those 1100 jobs that were created are now gone.