the changes and dot savings and cut back on government and get rid of obamacare which is going to eat us alive. we have to get rid of the dodd-frank bill making it so banks won't lend to small businesses. they won't even get involved in small business the way they shoulda. that's because of the overregulatory attitude. there have been hundreds of thousands of regulations formulated by this presidency in just the 2 1/2 years he has been in power and it is eating us alive, i'll tell you. jenna: took 2 1/2 years to get some of that in place the question becomes what is the timeline for unwinding it and how do we get jobs back into the economy as soon as possible? senator we look forward -- >> those are good questions. jenna: wish we had time to answer them. we'll ask our next guest about jobs too. are you race car fan, senator? >> oh, sure. jenna: do you like jeff gordon? >> i like him a lot. he is a gutsy guy. he is great driver. jenna: we'll ask him about jobs. and go to nascar race and