much. for people like herman cain and rick santorum and newt gingrich, newt gingrich had a great moment beating up on the media, but the truth is, beating up on the media isn't who he's really running against. he's running against fellow republicans. when he complains about the media setting up a fight, that's what the debate is about. >> bill: rosen, how do you see it? do you see anybody scoring big points? >> i think mitt romney demonstrated something that was in doubt until last night, which is that he can effectively go on the attack and he handled his attacks on perry in a classy way, saying texas is a state with oil and gas in the ground, with a republican lecture. governor perry doesn't believe he created those things. that's a gentleman leeway to handle those attacks. perry stumbled on policy, particularly when discussing social security. he may have presented his views in a ineffective or frightening way and on climate change, i think his answer bordered on the incoherent at times. i think rick santorum, about