he did not take anything. he fired back and he was quick. after all he last been campaigning for four years. >> neil: maybe this crowded field or the emergence now of a genuine threat to the nomination emerges and it helps him. >> yeah. i think perry has to watch out. he has the media hammering him on that social security issue. >> neil: the ponzi scheme comment. how damaging is that going to be when debates move to florida? >> florida is not going to stanford that. even texas. never not going -- they go to these no income tax states like texas, florida. >> neil: people of all ages done they know it is a ponzi scheme. >> when you see your check and working -- >> neil: i understand that would it hurt the candidate who just calls it what it is