for all this money. and they sent out an audited statement. >> bill: this church is down by the world trade center. >> that's right. 2 million of it. they said he misspoke when he said 4 million. we only raised 2 million. >> bill: then there was one called the garden of forgiveness? what's that? >> gashedz around the country that people learn to forgive. forgiving is healthy. reverend linden harris helps in this movement. he raised $200,000. paid himself $126,000. >> bill: that's nice. the reverend pays himself. he answers we want a garden of forgiveness but how can we have one on the site when the site isn't done yet. >> bill: why is he taking 125,000 out of there. >> we are teaching forgiveness. >> bill: i'm not ready to forgive that there. >> jack scalia is a soap opera star. >> i feel sorry for him. he got fired. he raised money. he wanted to do something to