think that the worst prediction did not happen the at least here. >> steve: that's a good thing. of course it's the storm surge that you've got to worry about as well after the winds die down a little bit. what about this? when you look at the stats, for instance, katrina costed something like 81 billion, maybe as high as 100 billion dollars. clearly this is not in that league. but, still, our economy is sputtering around right now. this couldn't come at a worst time. could it? >> it couldn't. you're right. the economy is so fragile right now. and basically, the economy growing at less than 1%. this is going to do real damage to consumer spending and when we think about this, this is one of the biggest resort weekends that the beaches all over the east coast and those were essentially closed down for the weekend. and here in washington, i'm sure it was the same in new york, all the restaurants have been closed this weekend. so it's going to do some real damage to the consumer spending and the businesses that need that, those customers, but you know, we're probably looking at a storm that's probably closer to 8