president, the chairman of clear channel radio, you may remember from mtv fame and he got that up and running, and aol, and bill -- brilliant timing for all things corporate. if the president called you what would you say? >>guest: two things going on. you have to get more people working. and you've get to get people who have money to spend it. and i think the two are somewhat related. if you want to create jobs you have to understand it is not just manufacturing. and, by the way, the manufacturing we have, make sure we take care of the industries that are doing well, and who will start the businesses? silicon valley, or wherever small business is, and do we have tax policies that are unified to help them and encourage them? on the demand front, advertising works. how do you get businesses comfortable spending money on