the most public figures for s&p obviously at a tough time for them. >> greta: devin sharma has been there, 2005, 2007 is when they give the aaa rate together credit swaps which i keep repeating led to the housing crisis and the economy tanking. but, is he leaving with a golden parachute? >> at the moment he's leaving from i hear he's leaving in part because he wanted to become the ceo of s&p's parent company mcgraw-hill. he was told that wasn't going to happen. he's going to officially step down september 12th, and stay as an adviser to the company for the rest of the year. after that he's going to be left to find whatever opportunity he's able to. >> greta: i read in the press release it said he wants to have other challenges. which is almost code for something else. i didn't buy i figured there's