>> mother would say go to the tree, get me a switch. bring it back to me. i remember this kid, i won't give his full name, his first name was bob. >> sean: beckel. >> no, i wish it was. he would bring back to his mother, she would hit him. welts would show. this woman would lock up that poor woman and we don't need that. you got enough tough cases without making criminal bad parenting. >> it didn't mean you can ignore these things. it is case-by-case. >> sean: you have kids? >> i do. >> sean: what would be the worst punishment, you could give your kids? >> at this point letting her cry in her crib for five minutes. >> i say watching bob beckel. in a loop. we need parents, spare the rod, spoil the child. i say beat kids appropriately, and with love. >> in these cases that was not