rebel spokesmen, but obviously, information is extraordinarily incomplete and i think it's always a mistake to put the president out there before he's got more certainty in what he can say and i certainly hope one thing he says is that he hopes that the rebels don't engage in the kind of abuses of human rights that he he was afraid of when he agreed to the n.a.t.o. intervention five months ago, when gaddafi's troops were at the edge of benghazi and threatening blood bath there. the last thing we need is for these rebels who we've supported militarily otherwise to engage in precisely that kind of massive human rights violation. >> now, this is quite different from what we saw in egypt. i remember a day not too long ago when hosni mubarak, the president there was kicked out and we saw another square that looked like the pictures. there's a difference between the countries and what are some of the nuances that we need to be aware of. >> there's a radical difference between what's happening for us in libya now