>> g.e. would not agree to be interviewed. maybe that's a good thing if it means companies are now getting embarrassed about the handouts. 13 years ago when i wanted to confront a business about its free loading. the ceo was so brazen he flew me to his headquarters in one of his fancy jets. >> cold, isn't it? >> gold plated. >> can i get you anything else? >> at this time this man was the biggest resim yent of handout. >> you are a big feeding at the welfare trough. >> why should i care? it doesn't bother you? >> not a bit. >> many beneficiaries of corporate welfare really believe that they are being paid to help the country. what i'm providing is so good that it ought to be subsidized. >> fortunately a lot of american companies have become moochers off the government. they go to the government to manipulate the system in their favor. >> that's not what business is about.