>> greg: they were under 18. >> eric: not convicted yet. >> greg: they were born with blurry faces. >> bob: greg, you didn't get scholarship for coordinated dance and swim? >> greg: i was a rhythmic gymnast. at that time people didn't care. glad you brought it up. >> monica: greg points out that the university of miami is a huge feeder team for the n.f.l., right? they are at the professional level though they are playing at the college level. so, they've got to subscribe to all of the ncaa rules. high widespread do you think this is? >> eric: very widespread. this is a guy that really liked the university of miami football spreading money around. this is tempting for athletes to say no. >> bob: i played before you did but the ncaa is terrible about enforcing the rules. we have had coaches that shot us with steroids. it's against the rules. they are still using steroids